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lrobson@proshotlaser.com · Joined: Jan 23, 2009 Messages: 45 Offline

Jeff,

I am considering building a new putter for myself. I currently use a center shafted mallet. I am looking at the CB4 and CB6 heads and I have a couple of questions. Do the specified weights include any weight screws, and if so, which ones? I assume that these heads can accept the heaviest (longest) weight screws you have available, true? What shafts are recommended for these heads? Are there MOI numbers available for these heads?

Further, do you buy in to counter-weighting putters? If so, do you have any advice for where to start weight-wise. Also, what do you consider an appropriate swing weight range for putters?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Cheers, Lee

Jeff Summitt · Joined: Jan 13, 2006 Messages: 2240 Offline

Lee:

The weight of the clubheads are factored in with the screws installed. In the CB4, the screws are 10g each and the CB6 has 12g screws installed. The MOI of the CB4 is 7736 and the CB6 is 6788 g-cm^2.

I was the person who pushed to have the counter weights made and brought in for sale. For the putter, I might suggest the heaviest weight (24g) for the putter to see how it works. Throw out swingweight for putters. You might find something that works for you through trial and error, but it probably won't be the same as your regular irons. My two gamers happen to be both F1.

Jeff Summitt

lrobson@proshotlaser.com · Joined: Jan 23, 2009 Messages: 45 Offline

Jeff,

Thanks for your insight, I am going to try counterweighting the new stick. Could you also give me the MOI for the CB3 head please. That is a very interesting design as well.

Cheers, Lee

Jeff Summitt · Joined: Jan 13, 2006 Messages: 2240 Offline

Lee:

The CB3 has an MOI of 8563 g-cm^2.

Jeff Summitt

lrobson@proshotlaser.com · Joined: Jan 23, 2009 Messages: 45 Offline

Jeff,

I went with the CB3, very cool looking head. I ordered the recommended shaft and it works perfectly. Only problem is the recommended head cover is not close to fitting. Since the CB3 is basically the reverse shape of a typical mallet, what would you recommend for a head cover? I would hate to see the great looking finish on the head get dinged-up without a head cover.

Cheers,
Lee

Jeff Summitt · Joined: Jan 13, 2006 Messages: 2240 Offline

Lee:

Did you get this HC? http://www.hirekogolf.com/hireko/orderportal/catalog_presentation/by_group/0/1024/0/0/0/0/0

I have one of the CB3s in my personal collection / rotation (big surprise 'eh?) and the putter cover fits fine. It is a little tricky at first, but it does fit.

Jeff Summitt

lrobson@proshotlaser.com · Joined: Jan 23, 2009 Messages: 45 Offline

Jeff,

No, the link in the CB3 head description connects to the KT01BW, which is what I ordered. I don't even find the KT01CB when I filter the head cover list for putters. Man, I wish I'd seen that one!

Cheers,
Lee

lrobson@proshotlaser.com · Joined: Jan 23, 2009 Messages: 45 Offline

Well Jeff,

I feel like a bit of an idiot, as I see that head cover easily by scrolling through them instead of searching for putter head covers. Lesson learned, I'll order one whenever I have a few other things to order.

Cheers,
Lee

Jeff Summitt · Joined: Jan 13, 2006 Messages: 2240 Offline

Lee:

Don't feel like an idiot, we just corrected the web page after we found out the root of the problem. Thanks for pointing it out.

Jeff Summitt

lrobson@proshotlaser.com · Joined: Jan 23, 2009 Messages: 45 Offline

Jeff,

Bought the correct headcover and it fits like a glove.

In building the putter I am trying counterweighting as you implied it can be beneficial. So far, so good. What are your thoughts on radical counterweighting as with the "heavy putter" models where a "mid-weight" model has a 400g head and a 200g counterweight?

Cheers, Lee

Jeff Summitt · Joined: Jan 13, 2006 Messages: 2240 Offline

Lee:

Glad to hear the putter will stay protected for some time.

There is a threshold where you get to regarding backweight and each person will respond to it differently. I had at one time our Karma Supra putter grip which weighed a little over 200g and I have taken standard 80g putter grips and added 125g at the butt. These worked fine for me as long as the greens were fast, but as soon as the green slowed down I couldn't get the ball to the hole.

Jeff Summitt