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lrobson@proshotlaser.com
Joined: Jan 23, 2009
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Jeff,
When lie board testing shows that a player needs more upright lie angles, Would you carry the bending right down through the lob wedge? Also, I understand, to some extent, the reasoning behind lofts getting stronger over the years, but why are iron lie angles now typically 1/2 degree between clubs where they used to be 1 degree, even though the iron lengths are still typically in 1/2 inch increments?
Cheers, Lee
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Jeff Summitt
Joined: Jan 13, 2006
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Lee:
The answer to you first question is test a long, mid and short iron instead of a mid iron like most clubfitters do. That way you will see quickly if you need more adjustment in the long irons and none in the scoring irons. To a certain degree that is why the lie angles are more bunched up rather the the 1 degree differences of year ago.
Jeff Summitt
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lrobson@proshotlaser.com
Joined: Jan 23, 2009
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Jeff,
On my own set, I tested the 6i, 8i, PW and SW (5 and up are hybrids). The 6 was fine, with the SW looking like it could use a minimum of 2 degrees more upright. I went to a local small custom shop and the guy said he never bends anything to more than 64 degrees and that I should change my swing. Maybe its just me, but that seems weird.
Also, The lie testing looked like 1 degree between clubs would be a pretty good fit.
Cheers, Lee
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Jeff Summitt
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Maybe it is time to consult another shop 
Also, don't just look at the marks on the sole, pay attention to ball flight. If the ball is going straight regardless where on the sole it touches the ground - leave the lies alone!
Jeff Summitt
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lrobson@proshotlaser.com
Joined: Jan 23, 2009
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Jeff,
The whole reason I'm going through this is that I hit my shorter irons/wedges progressively more to the right (straight flight, but right). I just put the Apollo Phantom shafts in to get some more tip stability (had soft tip shafts before) and that helped some.
Cheers, Lee
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Jeff Summitt
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Lee:
If the ball flight is a push (straight right for a RH), that is actually a good shot going in the right direction and can be rectified by bending the lie more upright.
Jeff Summitt
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filosofoenojon@gmail.com
Joined: May 10, 2009
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If I have a set of XK Pro Irons, but my swing has changed and would like them bent to 2 deg flat, would you suggest going to a pro shop, or sending back to Hireko to have the manufacture do the work?
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Jeff Summitt
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Save time and money from shipping and have that done locally in someone you can trust.
Jeff Summitt
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ialwaysgolf2@gmail.com
Joined: Dec 22, 2008
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When I do a full custom fit set for a customer I go through the entire set using the lie board and adjust each club if need be--the only way to fit a set. jmho
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Jeff Summitt
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And for good reason, 2 degree is usually the limit to safely bend a cast club unless it is made from a very soft material like 304 stainless used in our Prophet Tours.
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filosofoenojon@gmail.com
Joined: May 10, 2009
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see the only issue is that most people around me in Orange county will not bend a cast iron more than 2 degrees if that, they are afraid it will break
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